Congressional Democrats demand to hear directly from Kushner
WASHINGTON -- Congressional Democrats on Sunday demanded to hear directly from top White House adviser Jared Kushner over allegations of proposed secret back-channel communications with Russia, saying the security clearance of President Trump's son-in-law may need to be revoked.
CBS News has confirmed that when Jared Kushner met with Russian ambassador Sergei Kislyak in December, Kushner discussed setting up a 'back channel' for communications between the Trump transition team and Russian officials. This is according to a source familiar with the intelligence gathered at the time.
As the Washington Post first reported, communications were intercepted between Kislyak and Moscow describing the talk.
Mr. Trump, having returned from a nine-day overseas trip, immediately railed against administration leaks, calling them "fabricated lies," in a flurry of tweets Sunday morning in his first public comments since returning to Washington.
And his secretary of homeland security defended the idea of establishing that kind of communication as a "smart thing" and said he didn't see "any big issue here" for Kushner.
But to the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, it's "obviously very concerning" that a key Trump campaign figure was possibly seeking secret communications with a country that intelligence experts say intervened in the 2016 election.
Rep. Adam Schiff of California said the government needed to "get to the bottom" of the matter and urged a review of Kushner's security clearance "to find out whether he was truthful."
"If not, then there's no way he can maintain that kind of a clearance," Schiff said.
Kushner's foreign policy role -- and White House portfolio -- has expanded in recent months, making him one of the most influential people in the White House.
The Associated Press and other news organizations reported that Kushner in December proposed a back channel between the Kremlin and the Trump transition team. Kushner spoke with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak about facilitating sensitive discussions to explore the incoming administration's options with Russia as it developed its Syria policy. The intent was to connect Trump's chief national security adviser at the time, Michael Flynn, with Russian military leaders, a person familiar with the discussions told the AP. The person wasn't authorized to publicly discuss private policy deliberations and insisted on anonymity.
Russia, a pivotal player in Syria, has backed Syrian President Bashar Assad, often at the expense of civilians and at odds with U.S. policy during Syria's long civil war.
The White House did not acknowledge the meeting or Kushner's attendance until March. At the time, a White House official dismissed it as a brief courtesy meeting.
Sen. Cory Booker, D-N.J., a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, described the latest allegations involving Kushner as "serious" and called for a thorough investigation.
"He needs to answer for what was happening at the time," Booker said. "What's worrying me are the patterns we're seeing. So one is this administration not talking about our values, cozying up to authoritarian leaders. And the other pattern we have is just a continuous drumbeat of inappropriate contacts with the Russians."
Lawyers for Kushner said he was willing to talk with federal and congressional investigators about his foreign contacts and his work on the Trump campaign.
The disclosure of the back channel put the White House on the defensive. Just back from visiting the Middle East and Europe, Mr. Trump on Sunday dismissed recent reports that cite "sources" as "fake news."
"It is my opinion that many of the leaks coming out of the White House are fabricated lies," Mr. Trump tweeted.
"Whenever you see the words 'sources say' in the fake news media, and they don't mention names... it is very possible that those sources don't exist," he added.
Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly said he didn't know if the news reports were true, but described back-channel communications as a "good thing." He was echoing the sentiment of National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster, who declined to address the contents of Kushner's December meeting with the Russian diplomat to reporters in Sicily over the weekend and suggested that back-channel communications were commonplace and not concerning.
"It's both normal, in my opinion, and acceptable," Kelly said. "Any way that you can communicate with people, particularly organizations that are maybe not particularly friendly to us is a good thing."
"I don't see the big deal," he added.
Kushner's involvement in the proposed back channel was first reported by The Washington Post, which said he suggested using Russian diplomatic facilities for the discussions, apparently to make them more difficult to monitor. The newspaper cited anonymous U.S. officials who were briefed on intelligence reports on intercepted Russian communications.
The Post reported that Kislyak was taken aback by the suggestion of allowing an American to use Russian communications gear at its embassy or consulate -- a proposal that would have carried security risks for Moscow as well for as the Trump team.
According to the person familiar with the Kushner meeting, the Trump team eventually felt there was no need for a back channel once Rex Tillerson was confirmed as secretary of state on February 1.
Flynn served briefly as Mr. Trump's national security adviser before being fired in February. Officials said he misled Vice President Mike Pence about whether he and the ambassador had discussed U.S. sanctions against Russia in a phone call.
Sally Yates, the former acting attorney general, told Congress this month that that deception left Flynn vulnerable to being blackmailed by the Russians. Flynn remains under federal investigation in Virginia over his foreign business ties. He was interviewed by the FBI in January about his contacts with Kislyak.
Kushner was a trusted Trump adviser last year, overseeing the campaign's digital strategy. He remains an influential confidant within the White House as does his wife, Ivanka Trump. The president's daughter also works in the White House, as an assistant to the president.
The president's family members have come under increasing scrutiny over business ties, leading to questions of conflict of interest.
Federal investigators and several congressional committees are looking into any connections between Russia and the Trump campaign, including allegations that there may have been collaboration to help Mr. Trump and harm his Democratic opponent, Hillary Clinton.
The FBI's investigation into any Russian election meddling or Russian ties to Mr. Trump's campaign gained particular interest after Mr. Trump fired FBI Director James Comey. The White House initially claimed Comey was fired because of his handling of the Clinton investigation, after Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein presented a memo outlining the justification for Comey's firing.
But Mr. Trump offered different context for Comey's firing, telling NBC in an interview that he thought of the "made-up" ties between Russia and his campaign when he fired Comey. Mr. Trump also reportedly told Russian diplomats firing that "nut job" Comey relieved great pressure on him from the Russia investigation.
The Senate Intelligence Committee, which is investigating Russia's meddling in the 2016 U.S. presidential election, has requested information and documents from Trump's campaign dating back to July 2015, the AP and other news outlets confirmed.
Kelly appeared on "Fox News Sunday," NBC's "Meet the Press" and ABC's "This Week," Schiff also spoke on ABC, and Booker was on CNN's "State of the Union."
