Seeking parole after 25 years in prison, Kentucky school shooter says he's still hearing voices like ones before the rampage

A Kentucky man who killed three students and wounded five more in a school shooting 25 years ago told a parole panel on Tuesday that he is still hearing voices like the ones that told him to steal a pistol and shoot into a crowded high school lobby in 1997.

The two-person panel hearing Michael Carneal's testimony deferred a decision until Monday, when the state's entire parole board will meet and could decide to grant his parole request, defer his next parole decision to a later date, or determine that he must spend the rest of his life in prison.

Carneal was a 14-year-old freshman on Dec. 1, 1997, when he fired the stolen pistol at a before-school prayer group in the lobby of Heath High School, near Paducah, Kentucky. School shootings were not yet a depressing part of the national consciousness, and Carneal was given the maximum sentence possible at the time for someone his age - life in prison with the possibility of parole. A quarter century later, in the shadow of Uvalde and in a nation disgusted by the carnage of mass shootings, Carneal, now 39, tried Tuesday to convince the parole panel he deserves to be freed.

Parole Board Chair Ladeidra Jones told Carneal after his testimony that the two members had not reached a unanimous decision and were referring his case to the full board, which meets on Monday. Only the full board has the power to order Carneal to serve out his full sentence without another chance at parole.

Speaking on a videoconference from the Kentucky State Reformatory in La Grange, Carneal told the panel that at the time of the shooting, "I was hearing in my head to do certain things, but I should have known that stealing guns ... was going to lead to something terrible." He said he has been receiving therapy and taking psychiatric medications in prison but admitted that he still hears voices. As recently as a couple of days ago, he heard voices telling him to jump off the stairs.

Jones told Carneal that his inmate file lists his mental health prognosis as "poor" and says that even with mental health services, he is still experiencing paranoid thoughts with violent imagery.

Asked how the board could be assured that he would not act on those thoughts, Carneal said he has learned to ignore them and hasn't acted on them for many years. He said there are days that he believes he deserves to die for what he did, but other days he thinks he can still do some good in the world.

"It doesn't have to be something grand," he said. "Every little thing you do affects somebody. It could be listening to someone, carrying something. I would like to do something in the future that could contribute to society."

Carneal attributed the shooting to a combination of factors that included his mental health and immaturity, but added that it was "not justified at all. There's no excuse for it at all."

Killed in the shooting were 14-year-old Nicole Hadley, 17-year-old Jessica James, and 15-year-old Kayce Steger.

Carneal said he knew all of his victims.

"Nicole was a very good friend," he said. "Some of them I knew more than others, but it was a small school and a lot of these people were in band with me. I'd went to several of them's birthday parties. ... None of them do I have any negative memories of them."

Charles Hadley, Nicole's father, said Carneal "has never shown remorse or taken responsibility for what he's done," CBS affiliate WLKY-TV reported.

Carneal  ended with an apology.

"I would like to say to you and the victims and their friends and families and the whole community that I'm sorry for what I did. I know it's not going to change things or make anything better, but I am sorry for what I did."

Watching from her home in Kirksey was Missy Jenkins Smith, who was paralyzed by one of Carneal's bullets and uses a wheelchair. Her friend Kelly Hard Alsip, also wounded that day, and their children and other relatives were crowded onto a large sectional sofa.

They scoffed as they heard Carneal say he had not targeted the prayer group but simply shot at random. They also reacted with disbelief when he said he had heard voices just two days ago.

After the hearing, Jenkins Smith said she doesn't like having to wait another week to find out what will happen, but "at least he's not being released."

She had testified to the parole board panel on Monday that she believes there are too many "what ifs" with Carneal. What if he stops taking his medication? What if his medication stops working?

"Continuing his life in prison is the only way his victims can feel comfortable and safe," she said.

She also said it would be unfair to the girls he killed and their loved ones for Carneal to be released.

"They will forever be a 17 year old, a 14 year old, and a 15 year old - allowed only one full decade of life. A consequence of Michael's choice," she said.

Also testifying Monday was Christina Hadley Ellegood, whose younger sister Nicole was killed in the shooting. Ellegood has written about the pain of seeing her sister's body and having to call their mom and tell her Nicole had been shot.

"I had no one to turn to who understood what I was going through," she said. "For me, it's not fair for him to be able to roam around with freedom when we live in fear of where he might be."

The two-person panel of the full parole board only has the option to release him or defer his next opportunity for parole for up to five years. They could not agree on those options and sent the case to a meeting of the full board next Monday.

Hollan Holm, who was wounded that day, spoke Monday about lying on the floor of the high school lobby, bleeding from his head and believing he was going to die. But he said Carneal was too young to comprehend the full consequences of his actions and should have a chance at supervised release.

"When I think of Michael Carneal, I think of the child I rode the bus with every day," he said. "I think of the child I shared a lunch table with in third grade. I think of what he could have become if, on that day, he had it somewhere in him to make a different choice or take a different path."

WLKY-TV reported that Holm urged the parole board to release Carneal, who was 14 at the time of the shooting and is now 39.

"My oldest child turned 10 this year and I can't imagine holding her to the standard of an adult," Holm said.

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