R. Kelly interview with Gayle King and continuing coverage
Award-winning R&B singer R. Kelly has dominated the news cycle this week. In an exclusive interview with Gayle King on "CBS This Morning," he denied the 10 criminal sexual abuse charges filed against him in Illinois. Then just hours after the interview aired, a judge in Chicago ordered Kelly taken back to jail over unpaid child support.
Kelly came under both public and legal scrutiny after numerous women accused him of sexual misconduct in the recent Lifetime docu-series "Surviving R. Kelly."
Kelly's two live-in girlfriends, Joycelyn Savage and Azriel Clary, have publicly defended the singer, making it clear they are not being held against their will in Kelly's Chicago home, as their parents have suggested.
Latest developments
- "CBS This Morning" co-host Gayle King interviewed R. Kelly's two live-in girlfriends, Azriel Clary, 21, and Joycelyn Savage, 23, whose parents claim the singer has brainwashed their estranged daughters. The women deny it.
- Joycelyn Savage's parents held a press conference Wednesday pleading for their daughter to return home.
- R. Kelly was jailed in Chicago Wednesday afternoon after a hearing over unpaid child support.
- Detroit police say they'll investigate a claim that R. Kelly had sex with a 13-year-old in 2001.
- "Surviving R. Kelly" Lifetime series executive producer Dream Hampton told CBSN she wants Kelly to experience a "social death."
- CBS News will air a primetime special, "The Gayle King Interview with R. Kelly," Friday night at 8 p.m. ET/PT.
Detroit police investigate new underage sex claim
R. Kelly -- who is already facing criminal sex abuse charges in Illinois and was jailed Wednesday for failure to pay child support -- now faces another possible allegation, this time in Detroit. CBS Chicago reports Detroit detectives are looking into a claim that Kelly "engaged in sexual intercourse at an undisclosed hotel" in December 2001 with a girl who was 13 years old at the time.
Detroit Police Chief James Craig issued a statement saying that the department is trying to follow up with the alleged victim.
"We are aware of the allegations made against R. Kelly that possibly occurred in 2001. Approximately a month ago, we receive[d] information from Chicago Police Department of a victim, who lives out of state, who had made allegation of a criminal sexual conduct incident against R. Kelly. The incident allegedly occurred in the City of Detroit when the victim was 13 years old," Craig said.
"Based on the information received we have made several attempts to follow up with the victim. We have reached out, at the direction of the victim, to her lawyer and we are eagerly waiting to speak to her concerning the allegations. Right now, we have not made contact with her."
Savage family refutes claims Kelly made on "CBS This Morning"
Over the last two days, "CBS This Morning" has aired exclusive interviews with R. Kelly and two women, Joycelyn Savage and Azriel Clary, who are his live-in girlfriends. The women's parents claim they've been brainwashed and kept from their families. Kelly, Savage and Clary all claimed the women's parents are waging a negative public relations campaign aimed at gaining money from the singer.
"How come it was OK for me to see them until they wasn't getting no money from me?" Kelly said in his interview with Gayle King.
"Both our parents are basically out here trying to get money and scam, because they didn't agree on what happened, you know, with music or whatever it could be. And they're just very upset," Savage said in her interview Thursday.
"You guys believe in some f***ing facade that our parents are saying. This is all f***ing lies for money, and if you can't see that, you're ignorant and you're stupid as f***, because you want to be," Clary said.
The parents of Joycelyn Savage dispute this claim and issued the following statement Thursday:
"Yesterday, we went out of our way to hold a press conference for all media to address the falsehoods that have been aired the last two mornings on CBS This Morning. We have unequivocally denied allegations that the Savage family received money from Robert Kelly. At no point was money given to the Savage Family, discussed with the Savage Family, requested by the Savage family or offered to the Savage family. In fact, we've asked Mr. Kelly several times to produce receipts of such transaction. Additionally, we addressed it several times during our press conference on Wednesday. My client, Tim Savage, has never met Robert Kelly. We provided proof yesterday in the form of plane tickets purchased by Mr. Kelly for only Joycelyn and her mother, Jonjelyn, to speak with him about producing Joycelyn's album.
Furthermore, Gayle King stated that the interviews, like the police wellness checks, were conducted in the presence of Robert Kelly. I don't know how else to ensure that a lie holds up without the perpetrator in the room."
Gerald Griggs
Savage Family Attorney
Earlier, the Clary family's attorney Michael Avenatti released a statement calling Kelly "a liar, manipulator and sociopath." On Wednesday, the Savage family held a press conference stating they have not seen their daughter for two years. Kelly claimed the parents handed their daughters to him after bringing them to one of his concerts.
R. Kelly's two girlfriends speak out in his defense
In an exclusive interview with "CBS This Morning" co-host Gayle King, the two women who currently live with R. Kelly and identify as his girlfriends publicly defended the embattled singer. Azriel Clary, 21, and Joycelyn Savage, 23, told King they love Kelly even though their families claim he has brainwashed them. The women also said there is nothing inappropriate about their relationship with the 52-year-old.
"What is your relationship, both of you, with R. Kelly?" King asked.
"We're with him, that's our relationship," Clary said.
"Yeah, we're with him, yeah, that's what it is," Savage said.
"We live with him, and we're in a relationship with him, we just said it," Clary said.
"A very strong relationship as well," Savage added.
"Both of you?" King asked.
"Yes," they said, with Savage adding, "Most definitely."
"How do we say this without being inappropriate? Is this a three-way relationship, or do you each have a separate relationship with him? How does this work? I'm curious," King said.
"Well, both of those," Clary said. "We both have our individual relationships with him, and we all are family all together. We have our moments where we sit and watch movies all together, we go to amusement parks all together."
At one point in the interview, the two women told King their parents were the ones who had encouraged their relationship with R. Kelly in the first place.
"OK, so when I first met Robert, my parents told me to lie about my age. So when I met him, he thought that I was 18," Clary said. "On top of that, when I was 17, my parents were actually making me, trying to get me to take photos with him, take sexual videos with him, all kinds of stuff."
"Wait, wait, wait. Your parents encouraged you to do sexual videos with R. Kelly?" King asked.
"Yes," Clary said. "Yes, and they said, because if they ever have to blackmail him, what they're trying to do now, they can use it against him, which is exactly what they're doing."
Savage nodded in agreement, adding, "everything that she's saying is true."
"Both our parents are basically out here trying to get money and scam, because they didn't agree on what happened, you know, with music or whatever it could be. And they're just very upset," Savage said.
Both sets of parents deny ever asking Kelly for money or receiving money from him.
"Surviving R. Kelly" executive producer reacts to CBS News' exclusive interview
One of those reacting to Gayle King's exclusive interview with embattled R&B singer R. Kelly is the executive producer behind the Lifetime series "Surviving R. Kelly," who said she was in awe of Kelly's hubris and said she wanted him to experience a "social death."
Dream Hampton told CBSN's Tanya Rivero that R. Kelly did what she described as a bad performance of Brett Kavanaugh, who faced allegations of sexual assault and was grilled during a hearing on Capitol Hill last year before his confirmation to the U.S. Supreme Court.
"I would like his fans to finally turn away from him, to stop being able to to vociferously to talk about him not being guilty as if he's innocent. He did a very Brett Kavanaugh, a bad performance straight out of that playbook. I believe the many, many girls we talked to who survived R. Kelly."
"The Gayle King Interview with R. Kelly" airs Friday night
A CBS News primetime special will air Friday at 8 p.m. ET / 7 p.m CT.
R. Kelly back in police custody
R. Kelly was taken into police custody Wednesday afternoon after a heaving over unpaid child support in Chicago. CBS News correspondent Jericka Duncan reports that Kelly was ordered back to jail by a judge, and Cook County Sheriff's Office spokeswoman Sophia Ansari said Kelly will be transferred to Cook County Jail.
Last month, a Cook County judge issued an order that said Kelly would be sent back to jail if he failed to pay $161,663 that he owes his ex-wife in child support payments. CBS Chicago reports that under terms of his 2009 divorce, Kelly must pay $20,000 a month in child support, but stopped making the required payments in the spring.
Duncan reports Kelly's camp looked "disturbed" by the latest developments. At a news conference after the judge's ruling, a spokesperson said Kelly didn't have the money and that they hoped to get him out of jail by next week. His publicist described Kelly as deflated and upset.
R. Kelly's criminal charges and previous allegations
R. Kelly is facing criminal charges in Chicago for aggravated sexual abuse, and he also has a long history of sexual abuse allegations that date back to the mid-1990s.
Criminal charges
- R. Kelly was charged in February with 10 counts of aggravated sexual abuse by the Cook County State's Attorney in Illinois.
- Charges involve four victims, three of whom were older than 13 but under 17 at the time of the alleged abuse.
- The charges say Kelly used force or threat of force.
- Kelly could face up to 70 years in prison if convicted.
Previous allegations
- Kelly has faced multiple sexual abuse allegations over the past 25 years.
- He settled out of court with three different women in 1996, 2001, and 2002 who claimed he had sexual relationships with them when they were minors.
- Kelly married the late singer Aaliyah in 1994 when he was 27 and she 15. It was later discovered that Aaliyah lied and listed her age on the marriage certificate as 18, and the marriage was annulled in 1995.
- In 2002, Kelly was indicted on 21 counts of child pornography for participating with a minor in a sex tape. He was found not guilty by a jury in that case in 2008.
R. Kelly girlfriend Joycelyn Savage calls family following press conference
One of the women Kelly is currently living with, 23-year-old Joycelyn Savage, spoke with her family by phone Wednesday about 30 minutes after the family held a news conference with their lawyer accusing Kelly of keeping Joycelyn from her family.
Joycelyn can be heard on speakerphone telling her family, "I'm happy. I've told you a million, million times where I am."
A video of the phone call was recorded and published by CBS Atlanta's Adam Harding.
Parents hold press conference
The parents of Joycelyn Savage held a press conference Wednesday morning claiming Kelly lied in his interview with "CBS This Morning" co-host Gayle King. They reiterated their belief that the R&B singer has kept their daughter estranged from her family for two years.
"Joycelyn, we went from seeing you, talking to you weekly, to not seeing you for two years," her mother, Jonjelyn Savage, said during the press conference in Decatur, Georgia. "So that is a clear indication to us, and as a mother, that something is definitely wrong with this situation."
"The allegations Mr. Kelly has brought against my family is very horrific," Jocelyn's father, Timothy Savage, said. We are a solid family, we care about our daughter. From day one the only thing we wanted to do was actually to see our daughter, hear from our daughter, and make sure she's fine."
Kelly said he met Joycelyn Savage after her father brought her to one of his concerts when she was 19.
"I didn't go looking for a Joycelyn Savage. I was doing my show ... he brought her and asked a friend of mine to put her on the stage with R. Kelly, make sure she's on the stage," Kelly said.
"That is absolutely not true," Savage family attorney Gerald Griggs said at the press conference. "At no point has Mr. Kelly ever met Mr. Timothy Savage."
"We are in a battle to make sure she is not a victim to the allegations that we've heard and now the charges that we've heard against Robert Sylvester Kelly," Griggs said Wednesday, as the Savage family stood beside him.
The Savage family denied Kelly's claims that they were seeking money from him.
"We want the record to remain clear that at no point did Tim, Jonjelyn Savage ever request, ever demand, ever receive any financial compensation from Robert Sylvester Kelly," Griggs said during his press conference with the family.
R. Kelly interview: These women are lying
R. Kelly broke his silence about the the sexual abuse charges that landed him in a Chicago jail last month. In a nearly 80-minute interview with "CBS This Morning" co-host Gayle King on Tuesday, the embattled R&B singer said all the women now accusing him of physical and sexual abuse are lying.
"Why are you sitting down with us today?" King asked the singer.
"I'm very tired of all of the lies. I've been hearing things, and you know, and seeing things on the blogs, and you know, you know, I'm just tired," Kelly said.
"What are the lies that you're hearing that disturb you most?" King asked.
"Oh my God. Um -- all of them, got little girls trapped in the basement... helicopters over my house trying to rescue someone that doesn't need rescuing because they're not in my house," he said, adding, "Handcuffing people, starving people. I have a harem, what you call it -- a cult. I don't even really know what a cult is. But I know I don't have one."
Kelly was charged on February 22 with with 10 counts of aggravated criminal sexual abuse of four women, including three who the charges say were minors at the time.
"Have you ever had sex with anyone under the age of 17?" King asked him.
"No. No," Kelly said.
"Never?"
"No!" Kelly responded.
"I have to tell you, it's so hard to believe that based on all that we've read, and what the women have said about you and what the women have said about you," King said.
"What women said about me. So nobody's allowed to be mad at me and be scorned and lie on me?" Kelly said.
"So they're lying on you? That's your explanation? They're lying on you?"
"Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely," Kelly said. "I have been assassinated. I have been buried alive. But I'm alive."
R. Kelly says parents gave daughter to him
In a shocking and emotional interview with "CBS This Morning" co-host Gayle King, R. Kelly addressed his current relationship with the two young women who live with him at his home in Chicago, 23-year-old Joycelyn Savage and 21-year-old Azriel Clary.
Kelly said, "I love 'em and it's almost -- it's like they're my girlfriends."
"It's like, you know, we have a relationship. It's real. And I know guys -- like, I've known guys all my life that have five or six women, OK? So don't go there on me, OK? 'Cause that's the truth," he said.
"You're with two women right now. You love them, they say they love you. What kind of love is it that keeps these young women away from their families?" King asked.
The Clary family's attorney released a statement calling Kelly "a liar, manipulator and sociopath." On Wednesday, the Savage family held a press conference stating they have not seen their daughter for two years. Kelly claimed the parents handed their daughters to him after bringing them to one of his concerts.
"I'm going to answer your question. What kind of father, what kind of mother, will sell their daughter to a man?" Kelly said.
"How come it was OK for me to see them until they wasn't getting no money from me? Why would you take your daughter -- if I'm going to take my daughter and she's 19 years old to a 49-year-old icon, whatever, celebrity or R. Kelly concert or whoever it is, I'm not going to put her on the stage and leave her. I'm going to take her to the concert. Their father is more into my music and know about my music than they do," Kelly said.
Asked if he was saying that Azriel Clary and Joycelyn Savage's parents handed their daughters over to him, he said, "Absolutely. Are the cameras still going? Absolutely."
R. Kelly speaks on being a sexual abuse survivor
During her exclusive interview with R. Kelly, "CBS This Morning's" Gayle King asked Kelly about his difficult childhood and his own story of surviving years of sexual abuse.
Kelly has spoken and written about being a sexual abuse survivor himself. He says he was first molested at the age of 7.
"It hasn't affected me at all. I mean, it has affected me in -- a way though. Yeah. It affected me in this way -- anything I've been through, that -- or any struggles I've had in my past has affected my music," he said.
But Kelly denied that it has had any effect on his behavior as an adult, where he has had relationships with women significantly younger than him.
"Absolutely not. Because I'm gonna tell you somethin'. You know, I know people say, 'Oh, well, he was abused. Well, that's why he doin' that.' No, no, no, no, no. Because if -- 'cause I'm not stupid," he said.
King told Kelly that experts in child sexual abuse say most people who are abusers have been abused, but not all people that have been abused go out and abuse others.
"But they didn't say 'all,' did they?" he said. "Here I stand ... I'm in the 'not all.' I'm in the 'not all,' OK? But they also didn't say when you're R. Kelly, OK, and you're famous, and your name is ringin' 25 million times a day all over the world, OK, of people tryin' to get money from you, OK, and they're using' your past, they're using the past allegations, the past case that he beat to link it on to that, OK? They're using that."